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Wiesz bbaart mama nie musi wiedzieć co to jest :P a cisnienie mam po chcwili ruszania sie i nachylania to 131/94 a po kilku minutach siedzenia i nic nie robienia to 133/84 . Ale po tym halovolu żyły i tak na wierzchu są.
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Jakiś czas temu podpytywałem o Epi jednak wypadło na Promag'a, z którym startuje za 2 tygodnie. 70mg/ed przez 50 dni.

Obecna profilaktyka to: cycle armor, lecytyna, sylimarol, potas, zma. Czy pominąłem coś ważnego ??? (omega3 idzie z ryb i oleju lnianego)

Robiłem miesiąc temu badania hormonów (profilaktycznie) i wyszła mi prolaktyna wysoka, kilka jednostek ponad normę. Czy jest się czym przejmować ? Czy jest to jakiś ewentualny hamulec dla planowanego cyklu?

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Nie masz się czym przejmować.
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Witam.
Mam pytanie odnośnie przerwy po cyklu.
Robiłem cykl na Pro SD z Dr,jaką muszę zrobić przerwę między kolejnym cyklem i czy mogę jeszcze raz zrobić cykl na tym samym środku?
Proszę o odpowiedź

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Witam.
Mam pytanie odnośnie przerwy po cyklu.
Robiłem cykl na Pro SD z Dr,jaką muszę zrobić przerwę między kolejnym cyklem i czy mogę jeszcze raz zrobić cykl na tym samym środku?
Proszę o odpowiedź

Zmieniony przez - kumpel22 w dniu 2014-01-03 19:47:08

mozesz zrobic cykl znowu na tym samym, nie ma problemu....
powienienes odczekac pare tyg od ostatniego cyklu, zeby watroba odpoczela
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Nie masz się czym przejmować.


A jak z profilaktyka, starczy to co mam na stanie ?

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Jakiś czas temu podpytywałem o Epi jednak wypadło na Promag'a, z którym startuje za 2 tygodnie. 70mg/ed przez 50 dni.

Obecna profilaktyka to: cycle armor, lecytyna, sylimarol, potas, zma. Czy pominąłem coś ważnego ??? (omega3 idzie z ryb i oleju lnianego)

Robiłem miesiąc temu badania hormonów (profilaktycznie) i wyszła mi prolaktyna wysoka, kilka jednostek ponad normę. Czy jest się czym przejmować ? Czy jest to jakiś ewentualny hamulec dla planowanego cyklu?

Zaj**iście! Akurat też chce zrobić na tym cykl gdzieś w okolicach maja, wiec daj znać jak odczucia! Jeśli chodzi o PRL to możesz wrzucić wit. B6 do suplementaci. Jak masz lekko podwyższoną to może być dawka 150-200mg dziennie.

Co do profilaktyki to wyglada OK. Możesz cos na ciśnienie brać jak bedą problemy.

"Here is some research stuff I gathered when I was looking at P-mag for a cycle, hope it helps.

Promag or as many know it “P-Mag”, is a popular designer anabolic steroid/pro-hormone, it was brought to market in December 2005 as Promagnon-25 by Peak Performance Labs, Promagnon-25 has since been discontinued and has gained popularity as affordable clones have become available

Promag is a versatile compound that will produce lean muscular gains and is suitable for cutting or bulking, however is typically most used when bulking due to reasons noted shortly below.* Promag remains a popular due to it’s consistent gains, minimal side effects and “dry” gains that are relatively easy to maintain post cycle, subsequently it’s also a popular selection
Maintaining Health

Promag/P-Mag is an oral based designer steroids that are processed by the liver, they’re also a methylated compound thus put additional strain on our bodies liver.* Like many other compounds on the market p-mag can have a negative impact on blood pressure, lipid values, cholesterol levels and will put stress on the bodies endocrine system, there is also additional side effects (discussed shortly) that can also present themselves, however in most cases they’re typically minor and a slight inconvenience.* Luckily through proper planning and supplementation we can help our bodies protect our livers, lipid values, cholesterol levels and help control adverse blood pressure effects, these are all well documented side effects in just about every compound on the market, therefore supplement companies have been making “all-in-one” cycle protection products that work to prevent these side effects or reduce their magnitude.* Therefore ANYONE running P-Mag, is required to supplement with one of the following products throughout the entire duration of the cycle.
.* A general rule of thumb is to pre-load either of the products two weeks prior to beginning your cycle and continue to use throughout the entire cycle from start to finish, buy accordingly so you have enough on hand.** These products will assist your body with maintaining healthy blood pressure, prostate health, liver function and lipid profile by utilizing popular herbs such as Hawthorn Berry (BP), NAC (liver), Milk Thistle (liver), Saw Palmetto (prostate) among others.* Please follow the manufactures recommended dosage (as per bottle) as it’s the dosage known to work best.

For first time users it’s recommended to begin with 50mg and then slowly work it up to 75mg which is considered to be P-Mag’s “sweet spot”.* More experienced users with past pro-hormone or designer steroid usage can experiment with dosages to around 125mg, however the added benefit may be negligible compared to the added sides at high doses
As noted Promag (P-Mag) has a very long half life, therefore it’s recommended that the largest dosage be taken in the morning, assuming that you’re taking 75mg of P-Mag, you would be best served by taking two pills in the morning (50mg) and one pill before workout/around dinner (25mg).
Common Side Effects
The occurrence rate of side effects while using Promag/P-Mag are typically mild, however they’re completely user unique some users may not experience any side effects, while other users may experience a combination of sides.* It should be noted that the majority of these side effects are simply of inconvenience more so than a possible health affecting issue and for the most part can be resolved through simple supplementation

Decreased Libido/Sexual Function
Patterned Acne
Hair Thinning/Shedding (Especially those prone to hair loss)
Increased hair growth
Puffy / Sensitive Nipples
Sore/Aching Joints
Back Pumps (Dull pain in back after/during workouts)
Increased aggression, head aches, lethargy and various other sides can happen however aren’t terribly common..
P-Mag is a dry compound therefore should produce excellent lean body mass increases without any water weight or bloating.* It’s also a great multi-purpose compound with many people using it for a wide variety of stages including cutting, bulking and recomping (gaining muscle, losing fat simultaneously), as always your diet will dictate your results.

When used in a bulking diet, users typically report gains somewhere in the 11-15lb neighbourhood on a 5 week cycle at 75mg.
When used in a recomp diet, users typically report gains somewhere in the 7-10lb neighbourhood while simultaneously losing 1-2% bodyfat on a 5 week cycle at 75mg.
When used in a cutting diet, users typically report gains somewhere in the 3-5lb neighbourhood while losing 1-3% bodyfat on a 5 week cycle at 75mg.
These ranges are considered normal, however some users have reported gains in upwards of 20lbs and some users may not experience many noticeable gains at all, however lack of results is typically a result of poor diet and workout regiment.

Possibly the most important item on the menu is post cycle therapy, when taking a foreign substance (Promag/P-Mag) that creates testosterone your body begins to shut down it’s normal production, when you stop taking a pro-hormone or steroid compound your body needs a way to jump start it’s own natural production again, while limiting endocrine system stress, this is why we need post cycle therapy.* It’s not just as simple as that however, when coming off of a compound your body goes through a very stressful phase as your hormones are out of balance, failure to mitigate these imbalances can result in a unique set of side effects not related to the P-Mag compound.* Below is just a *few* of the noted side effects of an improper post cycle therapy regiment, it should also be noted that the occurrence of side effects in the post cycle stage is more common than the “on-cycle” phase, however a properly planned post cycle therapy regiment can mitigate these risks

Post Cycle General:* You should begin your post cycle therapy regiment immediately after your pro-hormmone or designer steroid cycle, it should begin the day after your last dosage of P-Mag.* post cycle therapy regiments are tpyically 4-6 weeks depending on the type of compound being used, user and type of post cycle therapy.* As noted in the previous section under “Maintaining Health”, you should continue to use Life Support, Cycle Assist or Cycle Support throughout your entire cycle, INCLUDING your post cycle therapy regiment.

Boost Natural Testosterone Production.
Regulate Estrogen.
Restore HPTA function.
Reducing SHBG.
Control Cortisol Effects.
Over The Counter:* An OTC (Over The Counter) post cycle therapy regiment is simply that, a post cycle therapy that consists with strictly over the counter products that can be bought at major supplement o*****s such as BodyBuilding.com or stores such as Vitamin shoppe or GNC.* The following is just an example post cycle therapy, you can interchange other similar products if you have a preference.

Competitive Edge Labs – post cycle therapy Assist.* An ALL purpose post cycle therapy product that will help boost testosterone production, help balance hormones and assist with estrogen regulation.
SAN Attitude.* An effective Estrogen Regulator and Testosterone Booster.
(Optional) Driven Sports – Lean Xtreme.* One of the most popular and proven products that control the effects of Cortisol.
When using an over the counter post cycle therapy for this compound, it’s recommended to run a 6-week post cycle therapy regiment, assuming you were using the products above, here is how you would schedule your post cycle therapy.

Week 1-3: post cycle therapy Assist, Lean Xtreme.* |** Week 3-4 post cycle therapy Assist, SAN Attitude, Lean Xtreme |* Week 5-6 SAN Attitude

For all products, follow the dosages recommended by the manufacturer.

Research Drugs:* The MOST effective post cycle therapy regiment is one that includes a prescription/research drug, however some users prefer not to go this route, you may be asking why would someone go another route if this is the most proven and effective post cycle therapy method.* There’s various reasons but one to point out is that these drugs aren’t technically available without a prescription, these are also very powerful drugs that can also have their own side effects, notice that I say they aren’t “technically” available that’s because they can be purchased online at research drug sites, I won’t provide you with any links, if you chose to go this route googling for these sites will won’t take you long.

1. Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate).* Comes in Liquid or Pill form.
3. Optional (But recommended):* Driven Sports Lean Xtreme

It’s reocmmended that Users with deep pockets can also add in a natural testosterone booster such as S.A.N. MyoTEST, in the event you go this route, it would be best to run a test booster starting week two through week six.* Below is an example post cycle therapy when using a research drug (such as Nolvadex aka Tamoxifen Citrate, as we are in this case).

Week 1-2 Nolvadex 20mg, Lean Xtreme (3 caps) | Week 2-4 Nolvadex 10mg, Lean Xtreme (3 caps)

Example Cycle

This is an example cycle from start to finish to give you an idea how it should look, assumes you’re going with a prescription drug for post cycle therapy.* From start to finish our properly designed cycle will take approximately 11 weeks total.

Week 1-2:* Pre-load Cycle Support or Life Support @ Bottle Recommended dosages.
Week 2:* Cycle Support or Life Support | P-Mag* 50mg
Week 3-7:* Cycle/Life Support | P-Mag 75mg
Week 7-9:* Cycle/Life Support | Nolvadex 20mg | Lean Xtreme.
Week 9-11:* Cycle/Life Support | Nolvadex 10mg | Lean Xtreme.

Supplements

It’s recommended that users supplement with a quality Multi-Vitamin and Fish Oil throughout the ENTIRE cycle.* You should stop taking any other supplements on Cycle as well such as Creatine, NO, Test Boosters and so on, these should be saved for post cycle therapy in order to preserve strength.* It’s heavily recommended that during post cycle therapy, you add Creatine and a Cell Volumizer type of product.* Supplementing with Protein is highly recommended on cycle"

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Dzieki :) na cisnienie mam jeszcze czosnek, zapomnialem.Bede dawal znac jak wszystko przebiega

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Pro-mag=methyl-clostebol=4-chloromethyltestosterone

"Ty mi tu chłopczyku nie rób reklamy, bo w marketingu nie siedzisz tak głęboko jak w mięśniach"

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W listopadzie zacząłem szamać Maga 35, pierwsze 2 tyg 2 tabsy dziennie. Dieta trzymana sporo białka z żywności w dodatku WPC gdzieś 3 razy dziennie ok 250-300 g starałem się dostarczać, przytyłem ok 6-7kg ale praktycznie tego nie było widać, po czym zaczeły mi sie ostre bóle, myslałem że to trzustka a to nerki kolka nerkowa i kamienie nerkowe, prawdopodobnie albo za dużo białka albo od maga. Osłonki były livermilk + omega witaminy i minerały.. Przerwałem bo musiała być dieta 3 tyg i schudłem z 8kg niby po badaniach jest teraz ok. Zjadłem po tym T-BOM II a pod reką był jeszcze apteczny clomid, ale to jak zjadłbym cala puchę. Taka ma historia a [przymierzałem się sporo czasu do tego
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