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juz sie tak nie doluj, wszystko dobre co sie dobrze konczy :D

niewazne ile stracimy na demo wazne zebysmy za kilkanasie lat byli milionerami :D

dawaj na oande bo mowiec ci to tez roznica, oanda to sprite a forex.com to pragnienie...

znasz wniosek nie? :D

Zmieniony przez - leyus w dniu 2011-01-17 21:49:50

ciągnę oba konta narazie, chce zobaczyć o ile sie odbije
kiedyś zainwestuję minimalną stawkę i będę grał za prawdziwą kasę, póki co chcę się dobrze potrenować

to graj od razu jakbys mial 2000 fuli, bo sadze ze kwota jaka bym zainwestowal w forex na pierwsyz raz to 1-2 k funtow, nie wiem jak ty ale taka kwote uwazam za snesowna i narazie bawie sie wiekszymi ale potem sprobuje wlasnie bardziej realnie tylko grac jakbym jzu mial 2 k na koncie

ja bym zaczynał od 250 Funtów (ode mnie by zależało ile bym zarobił, dziś miałem 5% zysku ale bywało i 100% zysku), tyle minimum wynosi na forex.com, nie wiem ile na oandzie, i jak bym wtopił to nie szkoda a jak by dobrze szło to w tydzień 100% można wydusić (albo wszystko stracić )

no wlasnie problem w tym ze strategia typu make or break rzadko dziala na forexie

lepiej grac an zasadzie - ryzykuje 5% i jazda, trzymac sie jednej strategii nie kombinowac

caly problem jest wtym ze dochodza emocje, i kocnzy sie tka jak u mnie, kilka strat pod rzad i zamiast trzymac fason zaycnza sie jak u ciebei make or break, zero stop lossa albo niebotyczny i : tym razme napewno sie uda i odrobie 100% :D zeby tylko dorobic a potem wroce do swojeje strategii!!

udaje sie faktycznie "przetrzymac rynek" czesto anwet pare razy co jeszcze bardziej zacheca do brania kolosalnego ryzyka i porzucenia strategii, az w koncu koczny sie z wyzerowanym kontem! Mimo wczesniej spektakularnych wynikow

Adrenalina, pieniadze, duze zyski kusza dalej i znowu wskakuje sie w rynek popelniajac mniej bledow ale popelniajac. O ile sie to robi na rachunku demo to pol biedy, ale jak sie zaczyna na realnej kasie to trzeba miec siwaodmosc ze taka akcja to czysty hazard i wciaga tak samo!



Zmieniony przez - leyus w dniu 2011-01-17 22:02:49

Dobra, to za ile obstawiacie max? I dlaczego bierzecie się za taką a nie inną parę?

ja obstawiam głównie EUR/USD i GBP/USD w zależności od wykresów albo spadki albo wzrosty, na tym łatwo zarobić, poza tym złoto i srebro ostatni po nauczce jaką dostałm na forex.com obstawiam to na spadki, poza tym loss ustawiam na -20/-40 pipów
kupuję kwotę minimum 1 mln w przypadku walut, bo wtedy bardzo łatwo zarobić 1k

Czyli grasz na krótkich dystansach raczej? Ustawiasz take profit, czy sam kasujesz po chwili pieniążki? Może spróbujemy na bazie doświadczeń wypracować jakąś strategię? :D

Wazne elementy:
1. nie graj na wiecej niz 20% marginu
2. nie ryzykuj w jednej tranzakcji wieje niz 2-10% portfela - sam zdecyduj!!!

Wybor pary - zaleznie od preferencji, skup sie na 1-2 parach kazdajest specyficzna jak odnoszisz sukcesy na jednej nie znaczy ze ta saam strategia podziala na inna, na przyklad srednie wachania odbiegajace od trenud na eur/usd to 30-40 pipsow stad ustawianie stop lossa na 20-40 pipsow ma tu najwiekszy sens zalezenie od twojego poziomu ryzyka i momentu. Dla domiany usd/jpy ma znaczenie mniejsze wachania.

oczywiscie wiedzac to wszystko w tejc hwilli mama otwarta tranzakcje na 50% marginu i z ryzkiem znacznie wiekszym niz powienenm probujac odrobic strate i wcielac swoje pomysly na nowo :D

Logicznie to by bylo trzymac sie tego:
$1000 to $1,000,000,000 in 4 years
The Big Picture

I wanted to share this information with the new traders, because they often forget about the long term picture and focus on huge gains at day one. You do not need 100 pip swing trades or huge gains everyday.

All you need is 20 pips consistently. So, yes some days you may make more and some days you may make less, but it order for you to become a full time trader, you must make 100 pips a week for years to come... This means that you do not need to risk your accounts, by trading news, or market opens. All you need is 1 good trade a day. Thats it..
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This is not some far fetched dream, nor is this impossible. We are not getting greedy, and we are not shooting for the stars.
We have realistic goals and we can achieve them. Yes you will need a solid strategy and discipline to follow that strategy day in and day out. But it is all very possible.
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This concept of 20 pips a day has been written on my BIG white Board so many times that ""How can I forget this simple goal.""

However, when I sit down to trade. I forget about that my goal is to ONLY make a few good trades and earn my 20 pips. And this is what has been the leading factor of my failure for years. Honestly, this is the main reason.

We all feel that, We can achieve more, so lets put on another trade.... well in the end,,, you should have been happy with that 20 pip gain. Because after trading for a few years, that 20 pips a day goal, would have turned into a nice portfolio. But greed often gets in the way, and we continue to lose our money.
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So new and old traders... Print this out. Hang it on the wall. and remember, ""You don't need all the opportunities, you only need a few that can earn you 20 pips a day"""
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we should all SEE THE BIG PICTURE
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This is for investors as well... Stop trying to find traders that can double your account every month. Find a trader that is consistently making pips... In the long run, you will have grown your account much further than trying to find the best trader on the block
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Compounding Lot Sizes When Your Equity grows.

This technique can grow your account astronomically in a short amount of time. The only way to increase the outcome of success with compounding is to increase your accuracy, risk management and discipline skills. We all must follow the rules that come along with making money quickly. The first objective is to handle Draw-down and have a strict guideline of exiting bad trades at a loss. Especially, considering that “Unmanaged” trades are the losing trades that make all(except a few) traders fail. Often enough, it is one specific trade that a trader will not exit from that consequently ends their trading career prematurely. . If the trader does not close their losing trade quickly, their account equity can be severally damaged. You do not want an equity curve that looks like a martingale. An inevitable crash in the end. We have to secure profits and limit losses quickly.

Account Balance – Lot per Trade – Pip Value in USD

$1000 = .1lot per trade = $1 = 1 pip after spread
$2500 = .25lot per trade = $2.50 = 1 pip after spread
$5000 = .5lot per trade = $5 = 1 pip after spread
$10000 = 1.0lot per trade = $10 = 1 pip after spread
$20000 = 2.0lot per trade = $20 = 1 pip after spread
$50000 = 5.0 lot per trade = $50 = 1 pip after spread
$100000 = 10.0lot per trade = $100 = 1 pip after spread
$500000 = 50.0lot per trade = $500 = 1 pip after spread -MT4 Limit
$1000000 = 100.0lot per trade = $1000 = 1 pip after spread
$1000: Start Compounding
Month 1
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1100
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1200
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1300
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1400
Month 2
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1500
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1600
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1700
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1800
Month 3
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1900
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2100
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2200
Month 4
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2300
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2400
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2500
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $2750
Month 5
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $3000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $3250
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $3500
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $200 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $3750
Month 6
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $4000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $4250
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $4500
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $4750
Month 7
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $250 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $5000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $5500
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $6000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $6500
Month 8
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $7000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $7500
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $8000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $8500
Month 9
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $9000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $9500
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $500 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $10000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance 11000
Month 10
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $12000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $13000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $14000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $15000
Month 11
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $16000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $17000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $18000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $19000
Month 12
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $1000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $20000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $22000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $240000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $26000

We will have an opportunity to achieve $2,000 as a weekly income after the first year

Only 20 pips a day

Year 2- Month 2
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $28000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $30000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $32000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $34000
Year 2- Month 3
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $36000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $38000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $40000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $42000
Year 2- Month 4
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $44000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $46000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $48000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $2000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $50000
Year 2- Month 5
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $55000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $60000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $65000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $70000
Year 2- Month 6
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $75000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $80000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $85000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $90000
Year 2- Month 7
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $95000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $5000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $100000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $110000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $120000
Year 2- Month 8
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $130000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $140000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $150000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $160000
Year 2- Month 9
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $170000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $180000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $190000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $200000
Year 2- Month 10
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $210000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $220000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $230000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $240000
Year 2- Month 11
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $250000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $260000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $270000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $280000
Year 2- Month 12
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $290000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $300000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $310000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $320000
Year 3- Month 1
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $330000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $340000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $350000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $360000
Year 3- Month2
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $370000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $380000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $390000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $400000
Year 3- Month3
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $410000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $420000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $430000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $440000
Year 3- Month4
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $450000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $460000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $470000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $480000
Year 3- Month5
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $490000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $10000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $500000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $550000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $600000
Year 3- Month6
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $650000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $700000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $750000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $800000
Year 3- Month7
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $850000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $900000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $950000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $50000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1000000

Congratulations. You have been promoted to C.E.O and have been awarded an Elite Trader Certificate, granting you access to new liquidity pools and 100 Lot positions.

How does $100,000 as weekly income sound?

Advancements
New Liquidity Providers
Smaller Commission percentage per trade
Institutional Platforms
Possible Job Opportunities

Year 3- Mont8
20 pips X 5 days a week1 = $100000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1100000
20 pips X 5 days a week2 = $100000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1200000
20 pips X 5 days a wee3 = $100000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1300000
20 pips X 5 days a wee4 = $100000 (100pips x Pip Value)= Balance $1400000

Oczywisice najpierw wypracowac sobie strategie ktora na rachunku demo zaznie nieprzerwanie przyosic te 20 pipsow dziennie i jazda w 4 lata do bycia milionerem, zalozmy poslizg i pomylki, niech ebdzie w 5 :D niestety obawiam sie ze nie ebdzie tak rozowo ale kto wie :D