Ted Wong mówi o Jeet Kune Do- video

Ty jesteś zwykłym trollem. Jak bym gadał z betonem.

Kenjrio said: " You are just a casual troll, I feel like I would be talking to the concrete".

Very professional answer about the subject, Kenjiro it really shows your point of view and the side of your coin. Is that all you have got? Nothing more? Is that all you can say?
Why don't you answer my qustions? Do you know why I feel the same for you when I am talking to you?


If you don't want to answer on the subject, don't answer at all as you are only like you once said: "trashing my subject".



Michal

Zmieniony przez - MichalJF w dniu 2009-01-16 16:26:19

Osoby, które mówią że trenują JKD i nauczają że ułożenie ręki jest obojętne przy ciosie prostym nie nauczają autentycznego JKD tylko JKD koncepcje. Bruce uderzał z wertykalnym ułożeniem ręki nie bez powodu i nie dlatego że trenował Wing Chun. Z wiadomych przyczyn nie będę wchodził w szczegóły zainteresowanych zapraszam na treningi!
dałem radę doczytać dotąd. poddaję się.

aaa, jeszcze to:
Nie wiem o co Wam, chodzi? Sposób walki z lat 70 a dzisiaj wcale się nie zmienił nadal używamy pięści i nóg.
samochód sprzed 30 lat też miał 4 koła, silnik i dach. to nie znaczy, że dorównuje dzisiejszym. ty tkwisz nadal w latach 70 a technika poszła ostro do przodu, co ci napisałem już w innym wątku, a co pominałeś milczeniem.
to jest po prostu straszne, straszne nie mam siły tego czytać.

Zmieniony przez - Jodan w dniu 2009-01-16 18:01:09

Komentarz Jodana to idealne podsumowanie tematu
SOG

Witam Wszystkich!
Czy jest tu ktos z lodzkiej szkoly dzit kun do?

I am so grateful to you Stefan that you are supporting me here on forum. I wrote that "Poland is no different", but I also remember what you told me about the "next generation". And it is actually taking place as people start to ask me about the trainings they treat this matter without a fuss.


Jodan quoted me: " People who are saying that they train JKD and teach that position of hand in straight lead is indifferent they aren't teaching authentic JKD but JKD concepts. Bruce hit with vertical position of the hand and it wasn't without a reason and not it was not only becouse he trained Wing Chun. Becouse of obvious reasons I won't be getting into details. Those who are interested I invite for trainings!! "

Then he said that he managed to read till this momemnt and that he is giving up.

Then Jodan add: "aaa, this also: (another quote of my words)"I don't know what do you mean? Way of fighting from 70s and today way of fighting haven't changed we are still using fists and legs."

Then Jodan said: " A car from 30s also had 4 wheels and engine and roof. But it doesn't mean that it is equal with modern cars. You are still stuck in 70s and technique had gone roughly foward, what I have written to you in other subject but you skipped that silently.
This is simply scary, scary and I don't have strenght to read it".

Jodan my answer is: In the first quote that you gave I meant that in authentic JKD the vertical position of the hand is reasoned by body mechanics and phisical laws in other words science. And that in JKD concepts it's simply "whatever".
Other thing is that a lot of people even from the school in Lodz had contacted me and asked few question about JKD, after couple of minutes of conversations they were regreting that I don't live in their city as they are fed up with concepts approach. As they weren't thought JKD as "scientificall approach toward fighting". So in first quote you can find the my attempt to compare both points of view.

Then when I had said that way of fighting didn't change I meant that I base my view not only on Karate that was most popular at that time. The grapplers also lived at 70s and Muay thai was also trained but it wasn't popular as it is nowadays. And you also forgot to give the rest of my post where I support my opinnion by Bruces words: " Unless human has four arms and four legs we won't have different form of fighting".

Jodan in that other subject I had answered you just becouse I didn't had time to write on PC doesn't mean that I am skipping that with silence. Anyway, you wrote that you don't train JKD and asked: " By the way what is JF JKD anyway, who does that?" If you don't know what is JF JKD and JKD concepts why do you attack me? and criticize my point of view instead of firstly aquireing some informations about the subject.



Michal



Zmieniony przez - MichalJF w dniu 2009-01-16 23:30:18

Zmieniony przez - MichalJF w dniu 2009-01-16 23:32:50

Moze mi ktos wytlumaczyc dlaczego ten zwariowany wariat , na polskim forum do polakow pisze po angielsku ?

Vell, I am writing in English becouse Stefan Nikander my JKD brother is supporting me here on forum. He doesn't know polish that's why I am writing in English and translating polish posts into English

Hopefully now when you have that explained you will answer to at least some of Stefan and mine questions or comment on those comparisons of both pointw of view that we made

Vell, pisze po angielsku poniewaz moj brat JKD Stefan Nikander wspiera mnie w tej dyskusji na forum. Nie zna jezyka polskiego dlatego tez pisze po angielsku i tlumacze polskie posty na j.angielski.


Mam nadzieje ze teraz gdy Ci to wytlumaczylem odpowiesz przynajmniej na niektore z pytan zadanych przez Stefana i mnie lub skometujesz, wypowiesz sie na temat porownan pomiedzy dowa punktami widzenia ktorych dokonalismy.


Michal

Be water my friend

Vell, after reading your post I must ask you about one thing. If you don't have got anything sensible to write about JKD don't write at all.

And this is also to SoulReaver, Kenjiro, Vell, Jodan and all the rest who think that Stefan and I are so wrong so stuck in the 70s so closed minded etc. Why don't you start to put some evidences, facts, sensible informations that would stand up and prove yours broad knwoledge about JKD. Becouse by now all I hear is bullshiting like: "Michal you are this or that", " Stefan it's nonsense".

There were moments where this discussion where on the way on which it should be, but Stefan and my questions, arguments and statements made you "concepts people" to shut your mouth very quickly.

My question is why you guys are talking so much about everything that avoids the subject and when it comes you to answer you are silent. When the ball is in your corner you are silent. And after a while you are starting up something completely new that deviates from the subject of this discussion.

All I see is that you "concepts people" feel insecure about what is happening that's why you try write about me or Stefan. I ask you again instead of writing about ours personalities etc. Why don't you show the broad knwoledge about JKD that you claim to have "concepts guys" and support your statements with some facts ofcourse.



Michal