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Ciekawy cytat z neta odnośnie tego czemu Kevin Levrone tak zmalał w tak krótkim czasie, myślę że można to tu spokojnie odnieść do Victora bo "spadki" podobne
[quote=Iabadman at www.professionalmuscle.com]I know the answer to this question actually . Most of you know that at one time I was a fairly big time dealer of gear . I had contacts all over the US and many were tied to my days in college and pro ball [as well as the fight game ].I know the answer to the Levrone question ,but I will not answer because it really doesnt matter and wouldnt be fair to Kevin .[and he is one of the greatest our sport has ever seen reguardless ....man what physique that man had ]
As far as to why he lost so much muscle ........that is easy ......Look around at every pro that shrinks like him when they go off .......what do they all have in common ? I can all but guarantee that they all started gear shortly after training . They never built a soild foundation . Guys like me , Doggcrap ,Massive G , Big A , Vander, and Phil .........built our base without gear and paid our dues first .......After my arrest I was so depressed and disillusioned with the pussies in our sport [arc bitches and self centered user pricks ],I gave it up entirely .......didnt touch a weight and ate like complete shit for 7 yrs ........what was the result of that ? I went from my hardest best at 293 to a smooth 270 .....was I fat? .......Yes , but not really .....just smooth and balanced ....people would ask all the time if I was a bodybuilder .......how does that happen ? Simple ....I started lifting at 10 .......was pretty consistant most of time until I was 17 [ at which time I reached a very hard 225 ] , when I went to college ,weights took a back burner to training for speed and agility [ I was already one of the strongest guys in the nation as football players went ] My weight stayed between 228 and 232 due my position requirements [ strong safety ] When I met Doggcrap I was down to 225 I think trying get over not being able to pass an NFL physical anymore [ I was depressed , and bodybuilding and fighting helped fill that gap in my life and I lived for them both ] I started gear on my own and quickly hit 245 or so and was 23 .....by 25 and after training more closely with DC I was 293 and my training partner was 311 at 23 .....[ we both ended up in jail shortly after that and bodybuilding for me was history ] My point being ,if you lay out a foundation with proper eatting and heavy training you alter your structure and your bodies set natural point [ I can weigh anywhere between 240 and 250 very hard ....clean with no drugs for 10 years ....well ....two very short cycles during that time ....lol ...6 weeks each ....lol...hey, at least I am honest ...lol ]......if you just have great genetics and respond to gear really well , sure you will blow up fast ,but when you stop your bodies return to normal .[ ever seen freaks like Strydom or Dillet off gear ? They are totally normal looking .......shoot Gunnter was down to 240 earlier this year and looked like nothing ........when he started diet for the O he was 340 ......what does that tell you ? ]Like Big A always sayes diet and training first ........max those things out ......should take 3-5 year min to find what works best for you ......then maybe think of trying gear[ then Gh ....ect...as each step progresses ] .........otherwise, if you ever have to go off ........you are going to have to hear those ...." what happened to you questions ?" " You used to be huge " type of shit if you ever go off [ or AIDS rumors ]............Gear is just a tool IMO , but it really has nothing to do with bodyuilding what so ever !!!
[quote=Iabadman at www.professionalmuscle.com]I know the answer to this question actually . Most of you know that at one time I was a fairly big time dealer of gear . I had contacts all over the US and many were tied to my days in college and pro ball [as well as the fight game ].I know the answer to the Levrone question ,but I will not answer because it really doesnt matter and wouldnt be fair to Kevin .[and he is one of the greatest our sport has ever seen reguardless ....man what physique that man had ]
As far as to why he lost so much muscle ........that is easy ......Look around at every pro that shrinks like him when they go off .......what do they all have in common ? I can all but guarantee that they all started gear shortly after training . They never built a soild foundation . Guys like me , Doggcrap ,Massive G , Big A , Vander, and Phil .........built our base without gear and paid our dues first .......After my arrest I was so depressed and disillusioned with the pussies in our sport [arc bitches and self centered user pricks ],I gave it up entirely .......didnt touch a weight and ate like complete shit for 7 yrs ........what was the result of that ? I went from my hardest best at 293 to a smooth 270 .....was I fat? .......Yes , but not really .....just smooth and balanced ....people would ask all the time if I was a bodybuilder .......how does that happen ? Simple ....I started lifting at 10 .......was pretty consistant most of time until I was 17 [ at which time I reached a very hard 225 ] , when I went to college ,weights took a back burner to training for speed and agility [ I was already one of the strongest guys in the nation as football players went ] My weight stayed between 228 and 232 due my position requirements [ strong safety ] When I met Doggcrap I was down to 225 I think trying get over not being able to pass an NFL physical anymore [ I was depressed , and bodybuilding and fighting helped fill that gap in my life and I lived for them both ] I started gear on my own and quickly hit 245 or so and was 23 .....by 25 and after training more closely with DC I was 293 and my training partner was 311 at 23 .....[ we both ended up in jail shortly after that and bodybuilding for me was history ] My point being ,if you lay out a foundation with proper eatting and heavy training you alter your structure and your bodies set natural point [ I can weigh anywhere between 240 and 250 very hard ....clean with no drugs for 10 years ....well ....two very short cycles during that time ....lol ...6 weeks each ....lol...hey, at least I am honest ...lol ]......if you just have great genetics and respond to gear really well , sure you will blow up fast ,but when you stop your bodies return to normal .[ ever seen freaks like Strydom or Dillet off gear ? They are totally normal looking .......shoot Gunnter was down to 240 earlier this year and looked like nothing ........when he started diet for the O he was 340 ......what does that tell you ? ]Like Big A always sayes diet and training first ........max those things out ......should take 3-5 year min to find what works best for you ......then maybe think of trying gear[ then Gh ....ect...as each step progresses ] .........otherwise, if you ever have to go off ........you are going to have to hear those ...." what happened to you questions ?" " You used to be huge " type of shit if you ever go off [ or AIDS rumors ]............Gear is just a tool IMO , but it really has nothing to do with bodyuilding what so ever !!!
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tak jak mowilem, ze jak wylazl to 100kg bylo na 'jego' wadze ktorej nikt pewnie nie widzial, narzekal na szame itd. a teraz wyglada jak niektorzy userzy z dzialu doping, a raz powinien sandowa dziabnac, wszystko na jego szczeblu to hormony, i wcale sie nie zdziwie jak na olimpi bedzie 5, bo bedzie mu sie nalezalo za to iz siedzial w pace i z litosci go wywinduja
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Bardzo fajny ten tekst. Potwierdzający to co się czasem przewijało na forum. Zgadzam się z opinią autora.
Tylko pytanie czy chłopaki takie jak Kevin czy Victor zwojowali by coś w tym sporcie budując masę pomału. I tak i nie. Chyba najlepiej porównać Kevina (szybkie, wręcz błyskawiczne przyrosty, chyba głównie na insulinie, pół roku treningu i pół off) a Ronniego (lata bardzo ciężkiego treningu, od najmłodszych lat, masa androgenów). Wynik starcia znymy wszyscy. Szybkość kurczenia się na starość jednego i drugiego również.
Tylko pytanie czy chłopaki takie jak Kevin czy Victor zwojowali by coś w tym sporcie budując masę pomału. I tak i nie. Chyba najlepiej porównać Kevina (szybkie, wręcz błyskawiczne przyrosty, chyba głównie na insulinie, pół roku treningu i pół off) a Ronniego (lata bardzo ciężkiego treningu, od najmłodszych lat, masa androgenów). Wynik starcia znymy wszyscy. Szybkość kurczenia się na starość jednego i drugiego również.
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No i jeszcze jedno. Kevin po 4 latach treningów był już wielkim, zajmującym 1 miejsca kulturystą. A Ronnie przez lata wchodził na szczyt, zajmując 15 miejsca po drodze. Jenak jak już doszedł do szczytu... to nikt go już nie strącił.
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co tam u niego slychac ? sa jakies wiesci ?
instruktor kulturystyki / trener personalny
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swietnie. dzieks, w sumie na wlasna reke tez poszukam i wbije tu jak cos. pzdr.
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Filmik z treningiem Victora (zdjecie z posta powyzej z tego treningu).
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/pulcinella-productions/4415-victor-martinez-back-on-track-by-mike-pulcinella.html
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/pulcinella-productions/4415-victor-martinez-back-on-track-by-mike-pulcinella.html
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