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witam mam pytanko zeli termogenicznych (np. lean cream z dorian yates chemical nutrition)v a pytanie odnosnie ich skutecznosci ,stosowal ktos owe zele ,jakei byly efekty (miejscowe spalanie tluszczu?)

pozdrawiam ii licze na odp.

a co ja jestem woltomierz zebyscie mnie do pradu podlaczali?

a co ja jestem woltomierz zebyscie mnie do pradu podlaczali?

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milo slyszec ...

no I ja moze jakas puszeczke u Ciebie
taka odzywka pokoju

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Zmieniony przez - Supnet w dniu 2003-05-21 21:11:04
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wszycsy bardzo pesymistycznie ,ale
np Avant Labs ma taki wynalazek LipoDerm-Y
osobiscie wypowiadac sie nie moge ,ale na zachodnich forach zbiera
calkiem niezle opinie ( jako spalacz koncowki wyjatkowo opornej
tkanki tluszczowej )

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i czekamy na maniakow wynalazkow ( VLAD ,Bull ,Lucek )


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a daj jakiegos linka do takiej dyskusji na zagranicznym forum gdzie to chwala, poprosze


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zaraz ktos skasuje ,na podstawie ktoregos tam punktu
regulaminu ,tak jak to mialo miejsce przy dyskusji o ph...

narazie FAQ dot tego srodka ( jest to po
prostu Yohimbina HCl ,w formie zelu
i jak twierdzi Avant labs ,duzo lepiej wchlanialna
(tak jak ph )
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Q: Spot reducing is a sham. Don’t we all know that?

A: This is the typically espoused assumption, and is in most cases correct. When one consumes less calories then one’s body burns, a caloric deficit is created which your body must make up for. The human body typically combats this deficit through an increase in lipolysis (fat burning). Due to many genetic and hormonal variations, fat may not be lost in a proportional manner; that is, one may lose more weight from one’s arms and legs than one will from his or her abs and hips.

Even so, when any type of significant lipolysis occurs, the body is in a manner “spot reducing.” Several areas on the body experience a decrease in girth in response to caloric deficit. This “spot reduction” is an effect, not a cause. The misconception regarding “spot reduction” largely originates from the fact that most assume this to mean the elimination of fat from a given area with the use of a magical crème which initiates lipolysis WITHOUT caloric deficit, or the use of toning exercises erroneously believed to reduce fat concentrations in a specific area. This is simply not possible.

There can be no spot reduction without caloric deficit. The problem in the past has been that we have had very little control in determining the areas from which the body will preferentially burn fat. As already established, caloric deficit alone will result in lipolysis, though its effects will be experienced to a greater degree in some areas (“spots”) as opposed to others. Control of this process has in the past been largely beyond our reach.

With the exception of the topical Yohimbine HCl products that have preceded Lipoderm-Y, these topical “fat burners” failed to address the issue of systemic uptake (overall distribution into the blood stream), and were nothing more than diuretics. Unlike the false claims put forth by the manufacturers of these diuretic agents, Lipoderm-Y does not pretend to generate a controllable spot reducing effect without a concurrent caloric deficit.

As opposed to internal events dictating the origin of the fat stores to be released and burned for fuel, this process can now be largely controlled externally with Lipoderm-Y; it will release fat from the site of application and allow a degree of control over the patterns in which fat loss will occur.

Instead of reducing your calories, and then internally waiting for your body to release fat from those “trouble spots” which are reluctant to let go of adipose tissue, Lipoderm-Y releases the fat from the site(s) of application, and when combined with a caloric deficit, results in the effective realization of controllable “spot-reduction.”



Q: How should LipoDerm-Y be taken?

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Lipoderm-Y should be taken two times per day with 12 hours separating application times.


Lipoderm-Y should be used at least 2 hours before any activities in which one will sweat or expose the skin to significant amounts of water, due to the risk of the product washing off before it firmly binds with the skin.


Apply to one large area at a time, or several small areas at a time. The dieter can only utilize so many of the stored calories being released via LipoDerm; if an excess is released, those calories will not be burned but simply redeposited. *An example of a “large” area is the thighs/hips/buttocks or the abs/lower-back/obliques (or any combination thereof).


Q: It is recommended that one should optimally use LipoDerm-Y with a caloric deficit of 500-1000 calories. This is 500-1000 calories below one’s daily total maintenance intake—activity levels included—and not one’s Resting Metabolic Rate (RMR) correct? I.e., my maintenance level is around 2040 for my weight, but after working out three days a week and cardio 2-3 days a week, it's actually closer to 3040 a day.

A: Correct.



Q: Is LipoDerm-Y allowed in drug free competitions?

A: Is Yohimbine allowed? If so, then there should be no issue with the use of Lipoderm-Y.



Q: Should I cycle this, and how long should a bottle of LipoDerm-Y last?

A: The only reason to cycle, other than financial constraints, would be the possibility of alpha 2 receptor upregulation. No one has reported fat returning upon cessation of use, so this is probably not much of a concern. 5 squirts 2 times per day, and 10 squirts 2 times per day, will last 36 and 18 days respectively.



Q: I have heard that Yohimbine HCL can cause water retention. If I use Lipoderm-Y, how many days out from a contest should I discontinue use so I don't hold water?

A: One week should suffice, though with use of a diuretic, this time could be reduced. Preparation-H Gel, used after the cessation of LipoDerm-Y usage, can expedite the removal of water and allow for a more rapid evaluation of Lipoderm-Y’s results.



Q: Can I increase my dosage of LipoDerm-Y, above the recommended amounts?

A: You can do this, but you must keep in mind that Yohimbine’s primary function is the mobilization of fat; it does not cause a significant increase in total amount of fat burned (compared to something like DNP). Thus, the more LipoDerm-Y one uses, the more one is required to reduce calories for said dose to be truly effective.



Q: When is the best time to apply LipoDerm-Y given that I consume a post workout shake (insulin spike etc)?

A: Due to Lipoderm-Y’s delivery method, Yohimbine HCl is gradually released into your system, so the timing of the application is irrelevant regardless of your training and diet schedule. Simply apply twice daily with 12 hours separating each application. .



Q: Is it possible to stack Lipoderm-Y with ECA or NYC? What is the best approach in these regards?

A: If one is supplementing with LipoDerm-Y, ECA would be a better option than NYC since Lipoderm-Y already delivers high amounts of Yohimbine HCl in a site-specific manner. ECA will elicit a far greater increase in NE, and combined with the Alpha-2 blocking of Yohimbine, one should obtain better results than would be offered by the coupling of Lipoderm-Y with NYC.



Q: I have heard that Yohimbine HCl can cause High Blood Pressure. Per 6 squirts, your product contains 100 mgs of Yohimbine. Isn’t this dangerous?

A: Oral and topical (percutaneous in this instance) delivery of Yohimbine elicit significantly different effects. Orally, one is primarily going to receive Yohimbine’s stimulatory effects, with the blocking of A2 receptors in other tissues being secondary. With LipoDerm-Y, unlike with oral administration, one bypasses systemic distribution and primarily targets the adipose tissue, chiefly blocking the A2 receptors in the area of application only. This delivery method minimizes Yohimbine’s stimulatory effects, thus allowing for a far greater amount to be used.



Q: As is often recommended with oral Yohimbine, must I use LipoDerm-Y with a Ketogenic diet? If not, what type of diet would be ideal?

A: Oral Yohimbine blocks the pancreatic A-2 receptors, increasing the response of Insulin in the presence of carbohydrates; this is one reason it is often recommended that it be used in conjunction with a Ketogenic diet (or at the very least be reserved for use before low-carbohydrate meals). This is not the case with LipoDerm-Y however, again due to its percutaneous delivery method. A caloric deficit is all that is required for Lipoderm-Y to work; the dietary method by which this deficit is achieved is of secondary concern.



Q: Can I use any of your other topical gels in addition to LipoDerm-Y?

A: Yes, one can use any of our other topical gels and LipoDerm-Y simultaneously. The only requirement when using two such products is that they not be applied to the same area.



Q: What other supplements can be added to impart a synergistic effect with LipoDerm-Y?

A: Other than an ECA stack, Sodium Usniate/Usnic Acid can be put to use, as the uncoupling activity of SU/UA will aid in mobilizing fat, further enhancing Lipoderm-Y’s effects.

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hehe jak ja lubiwe ja firmy zachwalaja swoje produkty

Liczy sie info od ludzi a nie ze strony producenta

A moje zdanie na temat żelów termogenicznych wiekszosc zna..przynajmniej "kawoszy"

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qrcze Kain ,troche wysilku
tak jak pisalem chwala go ale tak od 14-10% bf

takie mniejsze dyskusje ,w ktorych sie przewija
teamt Lipoderm Y i yohimbine

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=85d59fcb41e9d612a84385e18da7774a&threadid=113194&highlight=Lipoderm



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Supnet akurat fora zachodnie odwiedzam regularnie
i tam ogolnie nie maja dobrych opinii o tych zelach.


One sa dobre na wykonczenie forym dla kulturystów
a my amatorzy nie schodzimy z % tłuszczu do takich jak oni poziomów. (a przynajmniej zadko kiedy)

duzo osob tak je zachwala na sfd a potem wychodzi na to ze wystarczy sie tym napacykowac i to w dodatku w miejscu w ktorym chcemy stracic brzuszek...zasiasc przed tv i efekt murowany :)


najlepsze jest to ze na 99% opakowan takich zelow pisze ze wymagana jest ograniczona kalorycznosc diety i trening 3 x na tydzien.
A potem jak ktos ma efekty to cholera wie czy to dzialanie kremu czy tez diety i treningu heeheheh

Ale jak ktos chce to niech sie "pacykuje"

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hm....
chyba jestem jasnowidzem....
jakos przewidzialam ze Kainek tu sie pojawi


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Veroncjuszu ) jakos te żele działaja na mnie jak płachta na byka

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