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zakladajac twoja teze, to w jakim celu wowczas polecales orzechy jako zrodlo wapnia gdzie tluszczu jest znacznie wiecej ?

pomijajac juz to ze tluszcz mleczny jest najlatwiej trawionym tluszczem jadalnym, juz nie mowiac o tym po homogenizacji.

co do tluszczu i absorpcji wapnia, sa przeslanki ze wysoko tluszczowe i wysokobialkowe posilki wplywaja na jej obnizenie. jednak nijak sie to ma do tluszcuz obecnego w mleku czy tez bialka. no chyba ze masz jakies zrodlo dotyczace konktrenie mleka
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ciężko znaleźć jakieś sensowne badania. Znalazłem tylko tyle co wyżej Psonic pisał o wysoko białkowych i wysoko tłuszczowych posiłkach. A wklejam to co może na coś się przydać.

"Does it matter, when trying to increase our calcium intake, whether we eat low-fat or regular-fat dairy products?

This answer is no. Your body absorbs the same amount of calcium from both nonfat and full-fat dairy products. In fact, because the calcium is contained in the nonfat part of the milk, low fat dairy foods actually contain MORE calcium per serving. A serving of whole fat yogurt, about 8 ounces, contains about 275 milligrams of calcium while the same 8 ounces of low fat yogurt contain 415 milligrams.

Here is where the low fat/whole fat confusion could have started. Your body needs Vitamin D to absorb calcium. Your body needs fat to absorb vitamin D. However, the fat and the vitamin D do not need to be consumed with the calcium.

And for those of us who don't like milk or dairy, calcium absorption is the same whether it comes from dairy or foods such as calcium-fortified orange juice. So drink up!"
http://soundmedicine.iu.edu/segment/513/Low-Fat-vs--High-Fat-Dairy---Calcium-Absorption

tu coś takiego punkt 6 coś wspomina ale na tym się kończy.

"Factors that Inhibit Calcium Absorption
by
Ron Hoggan & Don Wiss

We focus on supplementing our diets with calcium, but we don't stop to
question why so much of the calcium we consume is wasted. Normally, we only
absorb about 10% of the calcium we ingest (1). A focus on the dynamics that
impact on calcium absorption may therefore be more profitable for those who
are concerned about maintaining and building healthy bones.

Among the factors that influence calcium absorption are three major
reglators of calcium metabolism in the body. The parathyroid glands produce
a hormone (PTH) which moves calcium from the bones into the bloodstream. It
also signals the kidneys conserve calcium and other minerals from the
urine. Additionally, PTH signals the kidneys to produce calcitrol, which is
formed from vitamin D, and which signals the small intestine to absorb more
calcium (2). The thyroid gland secretes calcitonin, which increases bone
mineralization, and decreases the rate at which the bone is broken down.

Any factors which interfere with, or alter the delicate balance maintained
by these body systems are likely to have a negative impact on bone
mineralization. The following twelve items, many of which stem from our
modern diet, are likely, sometimes surprising culprits interfering with
calcium metabolism:

1. A diet high in phytic acid, which is found in the bran of whole grains,
is likely to interfere with calcium absorption. This acid binds to a
variety of minerals including calcium, to form insoluble salts, called
phytates, which are wasted from the body. Probably because grains are a
relatively new food, from an evolutionary perspective, it appears that
we have not yet developed digestive tracts which can break down these
phytates(3).

2. A diet high in sodium may also interfere with calcium absorption. Some
researchers believe that dietary sodium levels were extremely low in the
past, compared to modern diets (4) and increased sodium intake can result
in increased calcium excretion (5).

3. Vitamin D is formed by an interaction between the sun's rays, and skin
oils. Without supplementation, we may be at risk of inadequate vitamin D,
if we spend most daylight hours inside. As mentioned earlier, this vitamin
is a regluating factor in calcium absorption. Circulating levels of vitamin
D throughout the year were probably higher in stone age men and women
because they were more likely to be exposed to the sun's rays. There is
evidence suggesting that many elderly in Western countries are deficient
in vitamin D (6). Treating every elderly lady in northern latitudes with
vitamin D tablets is probably not a bad idea.

4. Our sedentary life ways also interfere with mineralizing our bones. Our
ancestors were probably much more active than we are. Impact stress on
bone, as in walking and jogging, tends to increase production of
calcitonin, which leads to increased deposition of calcium in the bones
(7). Exercise induced stress increases the cross sectional area and perhaps
(equivocal data) bone mineral density (8). It is important to note that
cycling and swimming are not as beneficial because these activities are not
as likely to cause calcitonin production.

5. While the modern diet, in the western world, usually contains ample
calcium, it may offer inadequate magnesium. Studies of our ancestors'
pre-agricultural diets indicate that magnesium was probably consumed at
about a 1:1 ratio with calcium (8). Thus, that would be the approximate
ratio our bodies evolved with. As the Ca:Mg ratio is 12:1 in dairy, those
consuming this much vaunted source of calcium might only experience the
equivocal benefit that is reported in the medical literature(9). The Ca:Mg
ratio in post-agricultural diets is about 4:1 (10). Because both calcium
and magnesium compete for the same absorption mechanisms, the imbalanced
intake associated with our modern diet may well lead to magnesium
deficiency. One feature of magnesium deficiency is the inhibition of
osteoblasts which are cells that build and maintain bones. One of the
authors (Ron) increased his bone density significantly by taking magnesium
supplements alone.

6. While there is no evidence that high levels of meat consumption are
detrimental, as long as there are adequate minerals in the diet, there
are reports of isolated, fractionated animo acids from milk or eggs, which
have been found to correlate with calcium loss. Some suggest that we should
be especially leery of whey protein.

7. Sugar has been implicated in upsets to the calcium/phosphorus balance.
Melvin Page reported that sugar increases blood calcium through inciting
resorption from bone tissue (11). A recent rat study is of some relevance.
Although sugar was not implicated in osteoporotic changes, Li et al. found
clear indications of depleted bone density in their animal study of dietary
sugar (12).

8. Phosphoric acid, as found in soft drinks, has also been argued to
interfere with calcium absorption (13). In order to utilize calcium well,
in addition to vitamin D, we need 1.5 grams phosphorus and 0.5 grams
magnesium for each gram of calcium. We normally get plenty of phosphorus;
frequently more than enough. Although we need phosphorous, it is abundant
in our diets, and increased intake drives up our requirements for calcium
and magnesium (14) so it is important to limit soft drinks as they contain
plenty of phosphorous and sugar.

9. Coffee reduces inositol levels in the blood. Inositol is a regluating
factor in calcium metabolism. It inhibits formation of the cells
(osteoclasts) that draw calcium from the bones into the bloodstream (14).
It also exerts a direct influence on transport of calcium into cells
(16,17).

10. Although the dynamic is not well understood, tobacco smoking also
appears to interfere with bone mineralization. Some researchers report that
osteoblast formation is inhibited by nicotine (18). Study of animals given
chronic doses of nicotine support this perspective by demonstrating
reductions in bone mass (19). Studies of large groups show reductions in
bone mass of smokers, but there is some debate as to the cause (20).

11. Undiagnosed celiac disease is another cause of calcium depletion of
the bones. Recent blood screening data suggest that 95% of the celiacs in
the USA are undiagnosed. For those who have the condition and are
undiagnosed there is malabsorption of the fat soluble minerals and
vitamins, especially calciumand vitamin D (21). Adult diagnosed celiac
disease is usually associated with at least some degree of reduced bone
density (22). Poorly managed celiac disease is also a risk factor for
osteoporosis. It appears that magnesium supplementation may be more
helpful to celiac patients than calcium supplementation (9, 23). Loren
Cordain has recently published a discussion of human consumption of cereal
grains which delineates theproblems associated with human consumption of
cereal grains, whether one has celiac disease or not (24)

If you are concerned about bone mineralization, the above factors which
interfere with calcium absorption suggest the following strategies:

1. get your fibre from fruits and vegetables, minimizing bran consumption;
2. minimize your salt intake;
3. spend regular time in the sun, or supplement with vitamin D;
4. get plenty of anti-gravity exercise;
5. ensure that your magnesium intake is adequate;
6. reduce or eliminate dairy products and eggs from your diet;
7. reduce your sugar intake;
8. avoid soft drinks;
9. avoid coffee;
10. do not smoke;
11. get tested for celiac disease.




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Collins, N.Y., 1996 p.525
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