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e tam 100mg enana co 3 dni ;)
dlaczego finasteryd na nandrolonie nie ?
testo -> dht -> skinheads
test -> finasteryd -> violetta villas
nandrolon -> dhn -> villas
nandrolon -> finasteryd -> nandrolon -> skinheads
"Deca converts to dhn via 5-alpha reductase. Dhn is weaker androgenically than deca. If you take both finasteride and deca, then this conversion is not done. This would cause a more androgenic compound to be present which is more likely to cause Hair loss."
oraz
"First off, let me preface this by saying that this is true, in certain contexts.
However, I'm an advocate of including testosterone in every cycle, so my explanation is with the assumption that one will be using nandrolone in addition to testosterone
For those that do not know, testosterone converts to DHT via the 5 alpha reductase enzyme. DHT is far more androgenic than testosterone and is the main contributor to MPB in those genetically predisposed. finasteride is a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor, and therefore limits the conversion of testosterone to DHT via competitive inhibition.
Nandrolone itself is a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor (although it yields DHN in the process). So less DHT is produced if nandrolone is present. Also, DHN is much less androgenic than nandrolone and much less androgenic than DHT. So, finasteride with deca (nandrolone) should both work to reduce DHT levels, and since finasteride will inhibit 5a reductase, it'll also keep levels of DHN lower too.
The misconception that deca with finasteride is a bad combination stems from the the days when deca only cycles were more common (often referred to as the days before jason updated the AR homepage cycles ) If one were running a deca only cycle (or any deca cycle without test), then finasteride would be a poor choice, because DHN is less androgenic than nandrolone. However, since we're assuming test to be included in a deca cycle, and both test and DHT are far more androgenic than nandrolone, if your goal is preventing the formation of the most androgenic compounds, then both deca and finasteride work together to reduce DHT formation.
To sum things up, if you're running a test + deca cycle and are worried about MPB (and you're susceptible), then including finasteride is a far better option than NOT including it, although the nandrolone will help to reduce DHT formation on its own to some extent.
This doesn't touch on the many positive effects of DHT (libido, muscle hardness, decreased SHBG and therefore increased bioavailable AAS).....this is only in the context of preventing hairloss."
dlaczego finasteryd na nandrolonie nie ?
testo -> dht -> skinheads
test -> finasteryd -> violetta villas
nandrolon -> dhn -> villas
nandrolon -> finasteryd -> nandrolon -> skinheads
"Deca converts to dhn via 5-alpha reductase. Dhn is weaker androgenically than deca. If you take both finasteride and deca, then this conversion is not done. This would cause a more androgenic compound to be present which is more likely to cause Hair loss."
oraz
"First off, let me preface this by saying that this is true, in certain contexts.
However, I'm an advocate of including testosterone in every cycle, so my explanation is with the assumption that one will be using nandrolone in addition to testosterone
For those that do not know, testosterone converts to DHT via the 5 alpha reductase enzyme. DHT is far more androgenic than testosterone and is the main contributor to MPB in those genetically predisposed. finasteride is a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor, and therefore limits the conversion of testosterone to DHT via competitive inhibition.
Nandrolone itself is a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor (although it yields DHN in the process). So less DHT is produced if nandrolone is present. Also, DHN is much less androgenic than nandrolone and much less androgenic than DHT. So, finasteride with deca (nandrolone) should both work to reduce DHT levels, and since finasteride will inhibit 5a reductase, it'll also keep levels of DHN lower too.
The misconception that deca with finasteride is a bad combination stems from the the days when deca only cycles were more common (often referred to as the days before jason updated the AR homepage cycles ) If one were running a deca only cycle (or any deca cycle without test), then finasteride would be a poor choice, because DHN is less androgenic than nandrolone. However, since we're assuming test to be included in a deca cycle, and both test and DHT are far more androgenic than nandrolone, if your goal is preventing the formation of the most androgenic compounds, then both deca and finasteride work together to reduce DHT formation.
To sum things up, if you're running a test + deca cycle and are worried about MPB (and you're susceptible), then including finasteride is a far better option than NOT including it, although the nandrolone will help to reduce DHT formation on its own to some extent.
This doesn't touch on the many positive effects of DHT (libido, muscle hardness, decreased SHBG and therefore increased bioavailable AAS).....this is only in the context of preventing hairloss."
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dajcie se spokoj panowie z ta deka
to jeden z NAJCIEZSZYCH inhibitorow
wiecie co to oznacza?
ze zostaniecie impotentami moi drodzy
spytajcie starej gwardii czy bez koksu im bryka junior
o spermatogenezie i jakosci nasienia juz nie wspomne!!
/wspomnialem /
auaaaaaaaaa panowie jalosc nasienia to jeszcze ujdzie ale zeby nie stawal?
kompromitacja!!
a co dopiero polaczenie? BEZPLODNOSC !!
trzezwosci umyslu panowie!
deka do lamusa!!
macie szybkie tescie i dodatkowo anabolik oral to znaczy - macie wszystko
na stawy 1amp 50mg strzal i po czasie dopiero gdy bole wracaja robicie druga injekcje, wiecej nie.. no chyba ze chcecie leciec all life @ mumbo jumbo no to GO droga otwarta
i get deca coz i'm unsexy gay
ups
zdr.
/NUDA NA TYM SFD/
to jeden z NAJCIEZSZYCH inhibitorow
wiecie co to oznacza?
ze zostaniecie impotentami moi drodzy
spytajcie starej gwardii czy bez koksu im bryka junior
o spermatogenezie i jakosci nasienia juz nie wspomne!!
/wspomnialem /
auaaaaaaaaa panowie jalosc nasienia to jeszcze ujdzie ale zeby nie stawal?
kompromitacja!!
a co dopiero polaczenie? BEZPLODNOSC !!
trzezwosci umyslu panowie!
deka do lamusa!!
macie szybkie tescie i dodatkowo anabolik oral to znaczy - macie wszystko
na stawy 1amp 50mg strzal i po czasie dopiero gdy bole wracaja robicie druga injekcje, wiecej nie.. no chyba ze chcecie leciec all life @ mumbo jumbo no to GO droga otwarta
i get deca coz i'm unsexy gay
ups
zdr.
/NUDA NA TYM SFD/
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odpuśc fine..
Gregor_ian-fajna pani
Zmieniony przez - Natan33 w dniu 2005-08-24 17:06:28
Gregor_ian-fajna pani
Zmieniony przez - Natan33 w dniu 2005-08-24 17:06:28
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zyc szybko umierac mlodo i h**...ON
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Zawsze daje tylko te ""a wypowiedzi zadnej!"
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E-lite ty zawsze masz poczucie humoru ! To twierdzisz ze 2 cykle w moim zyciu z uzyciem nandrlonu spowoduja bezplodnosc i impotencje?wiem ze deca blokuje i to *****sko mocno bo 2lata temu robilem cykl deca+wins i tak mnie zblokowalo ze jak wracalem z baletow na chate to zeby mi stanol to pol godziny meczylem freda!ale dobrze ze mi przeszlo bo zaczolem krecic z panna za ktora bylem olsniony przez 3lata i wystarczylo tylko ze jak mnie lapala za noge to sam wstawal !ale ku..a jak chcialem walic alfreda no ni i ch.. ! Ale jak zaczolem trzepac futerko to zaczelo wracac wszystko do normy wiec bym chcial uzyc dece w takich minimalnych ilosciach!E-lite przeciez sam jestes pewnie nie po 2 tylko wiecej cyklow z zazyciem decki wiec mnie nie strasz tylko mi powiedz jak mam to wszystko razem z deca wziasc zeby takie skutki nie wystapily na odblokowanie stawiam numer jeden dlatego jem po 50tabsow Clomidu i 25tabsow nolvy na koniec cyklu wiec mi rozpisz to tak kokretnie z deca i powiedz co i jak zeby takie skutki nie wystapily!Z gory dziekuje!
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Napisał(a)
napisz jakie dawki brales w zeszlych cyklach i jak na nie reagowales tj czy byles zadowolony
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raz bralem tylko deca sila i masa poszla ale nie duza dawka 1-8 deca 200mg
4-8 wins 30mg ed i to ma byc moj 2 cyklon z uzyciem deci tylko testosteron to podstawa tego cyklu bo wiem jak deca blokuje wydaje mi sie ze dostalem wtedy decadick bo nie bylo testa w cyklu!ogolnie lepsze zamopoczucie na treningach i wieksza wydolnosc!Sila 30kg+ na lawce plaskiej!
4-8 wins 30mg ed i to ma byc moj 2 cyklon z uzyciem deci tylko testosteron to podstawa tego cyklu bo wiem jak deca blokuje wydaje mi sie ze dostalem wtedy decadick bo nie bylo testa w cyklu!ogolnie lepsze zamopoczucie na treningach i wieksza wydolnosc!Sila 30kg+ na lawce plaskiej!
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co tu rozpisywac
enan 200mg co 5dni
deka 200mg co 7dni
enana ciagniesz tydzien po dece i potem PCT
brakuje jedynie w takim cyklu kickstartera
zapodaj propionat powiedzmy 5 strzalow x 100mg co drugi dzien na poczatek dodatkowo
wszystko ladnie ruszy i nie bedziesz tracil czasu
enan 200mg co 5dni
deka 200mg co 7dni
enana ciagniesz tydzien po dece i potem PCT
brakuje jedynie w takim cyklu kickstartera
zapodaj propionat powiedzmy 5 strzalow x 100mg co drugi dzien na poczatek dodatkowo
wszystko ladnie ruszy i nie bedziesz tracil czasu
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