Jednak trochę zamieszałem ... za dużo tych art. przeczytałem ... o to co znalazłem ...
Jak pamiętam były też inne posty na podobny temat, co jest lepsze, jakie efekty dało 1-AD w cyklu a jakie efekty po Sauce.
Wiem, że po 1-AD było więcej opinii pozytywnych, może przez to, że brali mniejsze dawki 1-T a trzeba brać podobne dawki 1-AD i 1-T w wersji doustnej
Treść pytania 1:
I understand that 1-AD converts to 1-Test in the body. Why, then, did I experience gains and side effects from 1-AD so much different than 1-Test? I made far better gains with 1-AD than an equal dose of 1-Test. At the same time I had a lot of side effects with 1-AD (burning urine, aggression, etc.) but almost none with 1-Test ...
Odpowiedzi na to pytanie:
1. 1-AD and 1-test have the same properties once in your system because in the end both are 1-test. Something you would have to consider, 1-AD is less effective because it has to convert, however, it is also hard to get 1-test into your system effectively. 1-test is very poor orally (not as poor with an oil vehicle or perhaps ester/ether). If you just capped 1-test powder, then the same amount of 1-AD would still be providing more 1-test since only a small protion of that 1-test survived your digestive system.
2. Patric Arnold : When taken orally I don't think there is much difference at all between the potency of 1-AD and 1-test. So it comes down to how many milligrams a day you are taking as to what your results and severity of side effects will be.
Taken transdermally is another matter BTW. 1-test appears to outperform 1-AD by this method of administration.
Odp. na to co napisał PA : 1. Really appreciate the honesty Pat. Sadly, this is so rare in the industry.
2. Your honesty and willingness to help even the most mundane, monotonous, redundant questions, speaks highly for all of you ...
Pytanie 2 : Wait a minute - all the literature on 1-Test says it's more potent than 1-AD because it needs no conversion. If you have to take the same amount to get the same results, what does "more potent" mean?
Patric Arnold : The literature you refer to on 1-test and 1-AD are studes using INJECTIONS !!!
Taken orally it is a whole different ball game. First pass metabolism is severe, and what ends up in your blood stream is not the same as what you put in your stomach.
I am very confident that 1-AD and 1-test are more or less equipotent by the oral route.
Jeszcze na temat ph ...
1. If you want an oral product go with 1-AD. If you want transdermal, just make sure it is 1-test based (meaning ONE/ONE+ from avantlabs, SuperOne+ or make your own).
2. The reason I take 1-AD over a 1-TEST product is because I've had better results with 1-AD. I've tried Syntrax's Sauce but it did not work nearly as well as the 1-AD! Not even close. After reading the many posts on this board, I see I'm not the only one with a complaint on Syntrax's new prohormone series. Plus, the other 1-TEST products are trandermals/sprays. These types of products do not work for me for some reason and I have no idea why! I've tried Ergopharms Andro and NorDiol sprays but neither worked nearly as well as the oral versions of these products. Does anyone have a theory as to why orals would work better in my case? I'm confused by this because everyone says transdermals/sprays is the way to go! I haven't tried One or One+ simply because of my negative experiences with sprays! How can I be getting better results from orals as opposed to sprays?
3. I was always under the impression that 1-test only had a 5% availability. But according to Dante and Par, it is actually 15%. Makes you think though, are transdermals really worth the hassle and the money? A homebrew might give you numbers around 20% and ONE might be even up to 25%, but even then, its only a 5-10% increase.
4. Transdermal applications are generally better than oral administration of PH's. Do yourself a favor and go with One, One+, SuperOne+, SuperDuperOne+, or homebrew.
It should be noted, however, that 1-AD does have a decent oral survivability.
Na koniec ciekawostka co okazało się po zbadaniu zawartości 1-AD HDT i 1-AD Ergo Pharm :
I recently had MD Labs (HDT) and Ergo Pharms 1-AD tested for purity. The original test involved testing 1 bottle of each. The original lot number of the HDT product was 109102AD (the exp date was 3/29/04). The Ergo Pharm product was DC12002ex05. The results were like this: Ergo Pharm: 106mg per 100mg cap , HDT: 85mg per 100mg cap
I did not release this result as I wanted to verify the results. I called MD labs directly and had them send a bottle directly to the lab. The lot received was lot #209012 and expired 09/04/02. I got the lab results from that sample today. It came out as follows: MD LABS HDT 1-AD= 28mg per 100mg cap.
Nie dziwię się dlaczego wszyscy polecają
prohormony firmy Ergo Pharm.
Patric Arnold odp. na to tak:
Companies that have products that do not meet label claim are sometimes unaware that their products are underdosed. They are the victims of contract manufacturers that rip them off. Such companies are not guilty of deliberately defrauding the consumers.
Ignorance of course is no excuse. Companies are OBLIGATED to perform their own quality control on their products. You can't pass the buck
I find these results disturbing for many reasons. ONe of which is that now you got guys trying 1-AD and getting ****ty results because the capsules are too weak. That erodes the reputation of 1-AD. That sucks ...
Labs know how to test capsules from bottles. They weigh the capsules themselves to ensure uniformity of weight and then get an average. They then test the contents to see how much active is in the average capsule. The contents of the capsules (excipients plus active) are assumed to be homogenous.
The way encapsulation process works makes it very hard to get a "bad bottle". The encapsulator would have to be a real **** up to produce such a thing, and if he were, that in and of itself is reason to avoid said brand.
When you go to the store do you wonder if you are buying a "bad bottle" of tylenol? Of course not. You SHOULD feel the same confidence with supplements, don't you think??
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