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tak jak zaczynałem swoj wywód na temat ATP - jak to praktyka pokazuje co innego? Gdyby tak było to jak mazak napisał po co brac kreatyne skoro masz juz gotowe ATP? Z relacji klientów wiem ze środek generlanie powodował bule głowy i niesttey mało kto do niego wracał.
A propo fosforanu ... to jaki tam jest? Kiedyś był produkt MLO chyba mający w sobie własnie fosfor i kreatyne co miało przyśpieszać resynteze ATP. Ale jak pokazywała praktyka ten fosfor to nie za bardzo potrafił przetrwać chcoć by i wysoką kwasowośc organizmu ...
Więc jak cos czarny dawaj info bom ciekawy a jest okazja pogadać w ciekawy sposób
A propo fosforanu ... to jaki tam jest? Kiedyś był produkt MLO chyba mający w sobie własnie fosfor i kreatyne co miało przyśpieszać resynteze ATP. Ale jak pokazywała praktyka ten fosfor to nie za bardzo potrafił przetrwać chcoć by i wysoką kwasowośc organizmu ...
Więc jak cos czarny dawaj info bom ciekawy a jest okazja pogadać w ciekawy sposób
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szoszon w mlo byl fosforan kreatyny... tu masz fosforan wapnia...
wklejam badania ktore znalazl biniu na temat fosforanu
Effect of potassium phosphate supplementation on perceptual and physiological responses to maximal graded exercise.
Goss F, Robertson R, Riechman S, Zoeller R, Dabayebeh ID, Moyna N, Boer N, Peoples J, Metz K.
Center for Exercise and Health-Fitness Research, University of Pittsburgh, PA 15261, USA.
This investigation evaluated the effect of oral potassium phosphate supplementation on ratings of perceived exertion (RPE) and physiological responses during maximal graded exercise tests (GXT). Eight highly trained endurance runners completed a GXT to anchor the Borg 15-point RPE scale and two double-blind counterbalanced GXTs. Subjects ingested either 4,000 mg x day(-1) of phosphate (PHOS) or a placebo (PLA) for 2 days. Two weeks separated GXTs. Phosphate levels obtained immediately prior to the GXTs were greater in PHOS than PLA. No differences between PHOS and PLA were noted for the submaximal and maximal physiological responses. RPE for the overall body were lower during PHOS than PLA at intensities corresponding to 70-80% of VO2max. This suggests that oral potassium phosphate supplementation mediates perceived exertion during moderately intense exercise.
Effects of phosphate loading on oxygen uptake, ventilatory anaerobic threshold, and run performance.
Kreider RB, Miller GW, Williams MH, Somma CT, Nasser TA.
Department of Health, Physical Education and Recreation, Human Performance Laboratory, Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA 23529-0196.
Seven male competitive runners (VO2max 73.9 +/- 6.3 ml.kg-1.min-1) participated in a two-session, placebo, double-blind study to determine the effects of phosphate loading on oxygen uptake, ventilatory anaerobic threshold, and 5-mile run performance. Subjects ingested 1000 mg of tribasic sodium phosphate or a placebo four times daily for 6 d. A maximal running stress test or a 5-mile performance run was performed randomly on either the 3rd or the 6th d. Test sessions were separated by a 2-wk washout period and repeated with alternating phosphate and placebo regimens. Venous blood samples were collected prior to and following each max and run session. Results revealed that placebo resting serum phosphate levels were mildly elevated and that phosphate loading significantly increased resting and post-exercise serum phosphate values. Resting and post-exercise 2,3-diphosphoglycerate values were decreased while hemoglobin values were elevated with phosphate ingestion. Phosphate loading significantly increased maximal oxygen uptake from 4.77 +/- 0.29 to 5.18 +/- 0.25 l.min-1 and ventilatory anaerobic threshold from 3.74 +/- 0.28 to 4.18 +/- 0.14 l.min-1. Five-mile run times were nonsignificantly different between placebo and phosphate sessions. However, mean performance run oxygen uptake was significantly lower (3.87 +/- 0.3 to 3.80 +/- 0.3 l.min-1) with phosphate ingestion. Data demonstrate that maximal and run performance were influenced by elevations in serum phosphate eliciting an increased maximal oxygen uptake, ventilatory anaerobic threshold, and variable effects on 5-mile run performance. These adaptations occurred without observable increases in red cell 2,3-diphosphoglycerate.
Effects of phosphate loading on metabolic and myocardial responses to maximal and endurance exercise.
Kreider RB, Miller GW, Schenck D, Cortes CW, Miriel V, Somma CT, Rowland P, Turner C, Hill D.
Dept. of HPER, Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA 23529-0196.
Six trained male cyclists and triathletes participated in a double blind study to determine the effects of phosphate loading on maximal and endurance exercise performance. Subjects ingested either 1 gm of tribasic sodium phosphate or a glucose placebo four times daily for 3 days prior to performing either an incremental maximal cycling test or a simulated 40-km time trial on a computerized race simulator. They continued the supplementation protocol for an additional day and then performed the remaining maximal or performance exercise test. Subjects observed a 17-day washout period between testing sessions and repeated the experiment with the alternate supplement regimen in identical fashion. Metabolic data were collected at 15-sec intervals while venous blood samples and 2D-echocardiographic data were collected during each stage of exercise during the maximal exercise test and at 8-km intervals during the 40-km time trial. Results indicate that phosphate loading attenuated anaerobic threshold, increased myocardial ejection fraction and fractional shortening, increased maximal oxidative capacity, and enhanced endurance performance in competitive cyclists and triathletes.
wklejam badania ktore znalazl biniu na temat fosforanu
Effect of potassium phosphate supplementation on perceptual and physiological responses to maximal graded exercise.
Goss F, Robertson R, Riechman S, Zoeller R, Dabayebeh ID, Moyna N, Boer N, Peoples J, Metz K.
Center for Exercise and Health-Fitness Research, University of Pittsburgh, PA 15261, USA.
This investigation evaluated the effect of oral potassium phosphate supplementation on ratings of perceived exertion (RPE) and physiological responses during maximal graded exercise tests (GXT). Eight highly trained endurance runners completed a GXT to anchor the Borg 15-point RPE scale and two double-blind counterbalanced GXTs. Subjects ingested either 4,000 mg x day(-1) of phosphate (PHOS) or a placebo (PLA) for 2 days. Two weeks separated GXTs. Phosphate levels obtained immediately prior to the GXTs were greater in PHOS than PLA. No differences between PHOS and PLA were noted for the submaximal and maximal physiological responses. RPE for the overall body were lower during PHOS than PLA at intensities corresponding to 70-80% of VO2max. This suggests that oral potassium phosphate supplementation mediates perceived exertion during moderately intense exercise.
Effects of phosphate loading on oxygen uptake, ventilatory anaerobic threshold, and run performance.
Kreider RB, Miller GW, Williams MH, Somma CT, Nasser TA.
Department of Health, Physical Education and Recreation, Human Performance Laboratory, Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA 23529-0196.
Seven male competitive runners (VO2max 73.9 +/- 6.3 ml.kg-1.min-1) participated in a two-session, placebo, double-blind study to determine the effects of phosphate loading on oxygen uptake, ventilatory anaerobic threshold, and 5-mile run performance. Subjects ingested 1000 mg of tribasic sodium phosphate or a placebo four times daily for 6 d. A maximal running stress test or a 5-mile performance run was performed randomly on either the 3rd or the 6th d. Test sessions were separated by a 2-wk washout period and repeated with alternating phosphate and placebo regimens. Venous blood samples were collected prior to and following each max and run session. Results revealed that placebo resting serum phosphate levels were mildly elevated and that phosphate loading significantly increased resting and post-exercise serum phosphate values. Resting and post-exercise 2,3-diphosphoglycerate values were decreased while hemoglobin values were elevated with phosphate ingestion. Phosphate loading significantly increased maximal oxygen uptake from 4.77 +/- 0.29 to 5.18 +/- 0.25 l.min-1 and ventilatory anaerobic threshold from 3.74 +/- 0.28 to 4.18 +/- 0.14 l.min-1. Five-mile run times were nonsignificantly different between placebo and phosphate sessions. However, mean performance run oxygen uptake was significantly lower (3.87 +/- 0.3 to 3.80 +/- 0.3 l.min-1) with phosphate ingestion. Data demonstrate that maximal and run performance were influenced by elevations in serum phosphate eliciting an increased maximal oxygen uptake, ventilatory anaerobic threshold, and variable effects on 5-mile run performance. These adaptations occurred without observable increases in red cell 2,3-diphosphoglycerate.
Effects of phosphate loading on metabolic and myocardial responses to maximal and endurance exercise.
Kreider RB, Miller GW, Schenck D, Cortes CW, Miriel V, Somma CT, Rowland P, Turner C, Hill D.
Dept. of HPER, Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA 23529-0196.
Six trained male cyclists and triathletes participated in a double blind study to determine the effects of phosphate loading on maximal and endurance exercise performance. Subjects ingested either 1 gm of tribasic sodium phosphate or a glucose placebo four times daily for 3 days prior to performing either an incremental maximal cycling test or a simulated 40-km time trial on a computerized race simulator. They continued the supplementation protocol for an additional day and then performed the remaining maximal or performance exercise test. Subjects observed a 17-day washout period between testing sessions and repeated the experiment with the alternate supplement regimen in identical fashion. Metabolic data were collected at 15-sec intervals while venous blood samples and 2D-echocardiographic data were collected during each stage of exercise during the maximal exercise test and at 8-km intervals during the 40-km time trial. Results indicate that phosphate loading attenuated anaerobic threshold, increased myocardial ejection fraction and fractional shortening, increased maximal oxidative capacity, and enhanced endurance performance in competitive cyclists and triathletes.
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nikt z was szczyle nie pamieta dokladnie tego produktu wiec przypmne
mlo jako pierwszy wprowadzil na nasz rynek kretke i wlasnie nieszczesny fosforan
produkt cieszyl sie chwilowo zainteresowaniem ale bardziej wsrod wytrzymalosciowcow
jednak szybko przepadł
i dobrze
Moje doswiadczenia były niemile
Smak najgorszy z mozliwych.
10-15min po zjedzeniu wybuchy goraca rumience, mrowienie, swedzenie, pieczenie itd w czasie ladowania
efekty mierne lub zerowe
donosnie preparatow atp-podobnych
mialem okazje lyknąc kilka firm i nigdy nie zwuwazylem oczekiwanych pozytywów w szerszj skali
i nie wierze ze co takiego moze dzialac!
mlo jako pierwszy wprowadzil na nasz rynek kretke i wlasnie nieszczesny fosforan
produkt cieszyl sie chwilowo zainteresowaniem ale bardziej wsrod wytrzymalosciowcow
jednak szybko przepadł
i dobrze
Moje doswiadczenia były niemile
Smak najgorszy z mozliwych.
10-15min po zjedzeniu wybuchy goraca rumience, mrowienie, swedzenie, pieczenie itd w czasie ladowania
efekty mierne lub zerowe
donosnie preparatow atp-podobnych
mialem okazje lyknąc kilka firm i nigdy nie zwuwazylem oczekiwanych pozytywów w szerszj skali
i nie wierze ze co takiego moze dzialac!
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Miętas - no dobra, masz rację. To zbyt duży sceptycyzm
Panuj nad wszystkim,nad czym możesz zapanować.
Resztę traktuj jak kupę gówna,
a jeżeli musisz paść,
to z dymiącym rewolwerem.
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ano, nie podwazam dzialania dotychczas znanych mi supli z ATP.
teoretycznie do praktyki porownalem inozyne, ktora mocno popartymi badaniami wydalamy z moczem, imo znam osob wiecej niz mam palcow na reku ktore braly inozyne i zawsze beda ja chwalic z tym ATP to zapytam, jestem ciekawy co tam bedzie
teoretycznie do praktyki porownalem inozyne, ktora mocno popartymi badaniami wydalamy z moczem, imo znam osob wiecej niz mam palcow na reku ktore braly inozyne i zawsze beda ja chwalic z tym ATP to zapytam, jestem ciekawy co tam bedzie
DORADCA W SUPLEMENTACJI
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Firma Nutrex byle gówna nie wydaje takie produkty jak Lipo 6, Vitrix,Vitargo
oraz już nie sprzedawany 1-TU to zdecydowanie czołówka sprzedających się supli w USA , jak działają? wystarczy poczytac recenzje na stronkach USA. Czarny jak masz coś ściągac to zobacz na Super Charge Nitric Oxide (Labrada),ten stak to ponoc BOMBA obecnie w USA.
oraz już nie sprzedawany 1-TU to zdecydowanie czołówka sprzedających się supli w USA , jak działają? wystarczy poczytac recenzje na stronkach USA. Czarny jak masz coś ściągac to zobacz na Super Charge Nitric Oxide (Labrada),ten stak to ponoc BOMBA obecnie w USA.
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