what is Jeet kune Do

I have been asked to sort things out about the certifikation and authority by the original Bruce Lee student.

Firstly. There seams to be some misunderstanding about the realtion ship between Ted Wong and Inosanto. ted Wong is by no means certified or connected To Dan Inosanto and The Concepts approach. Ted wong was the only one besides Inosanto that was personallt certified by ted wong in Jeet Kune Do and stands very much on his own feet. Ted represents the only Bruce lee JKD certified instructor in Linda Lee´s Bruce lee Educational Foundation. A organisation which dan inosanto is not an active member.

I told you That for every 1 Jun fan JKD instrukctor these is 100 Concepts instructors. What then sets MichailJF apart from the other JKD authorities in Poland is that his Lineage/auhorization comes from a small and exclusive Line of JKD instructors, naimly from The ted Wong Jeet Kune Do Lineage.

What you should do is, when you see a JKD instructor , is establish this Lineage

Bruce lee-Dan Inosanto-Rick young- ??????
or
Bruce Lee-Ted Wong- Stefan Nikander-???????

Rick Young is one of Hundreds of 2nd generation students of Inosanto lineage. There was a time one he had all his instructors on a list and I think they were over 300 worldwide. Ted was has chosen the exclusive way that Bruce lee did and has 15-20 worldwide.


About sorting out who is qualified and who is a "jkd con artist" I will quote Rick Young, in a interwiew.

question: How does a prospective JKD student find a genuine instructor?

Rick Young: Firts of all you should ask the about their Lineage who they instructor is, and who he he was tarined by.Then you should ask about their certification- which Grade they are.

I would also suggest that you ask what kind of certification. Dan Inosanto as well as Ted Wong gives specific Seminar Certificats. These certificates has nothing to with being authorized to teach JKD. There are many " jkd Con artists" that present these certificates as their Lineage and JKD Instructors certifikation.

I myself have trained and received this kind of certificates from many Original Bruce Lee students. I even have many pictures taken with these people. This does not mean that I am authorized and knowledgable to teach their Lineage. It only means that I have met and trained with them. The only one I am certified by is Ted Wong. I have had many offers from many Original students to become their representative and instructot. I don´t think it is just about me being dedicated, I think that the beautiful women in sweden has something to do with it :)

Hopefully this will help everybody in Poland when they are looking for good JKD instruction and training.

PS. With the qualities I have seen in Michailjf I am proud to call him my Jun fan JKD brother. And if Ted will not authorize him officially, I will stand by him 100% and would be honoured to call him my student and invite him into my JKD Family and Lineage and authorize him as my instructor.

/SteFan

You are wrong Stefan. Rick Young is private student and instructor under Dan. There are few who are private students of Dan like Paul Vunak, Yori Nakamura, Erik Paulson and few others.
Not every of 300 instructor is private student of Dan...
Do You feel the difference??

Private Students or instructors. Is there a difference?

But you are absolutely right. Lets´s sort this out. Why don´t we log in on dans web page and start counting. The last time I looked at it i saw a new instructors list, not the one Iam talking about.

I will look around on different weppages. Why don´t you do the same. By the way, wan´t there a Full instructor under Inosanto in Poland?

/SteFan

I mean - student who has Full Instructor Certificate.
No, there are no Full Instructor under Dan in Poland.

I am back alredy. I looked att Inosantos official wedpage under instructors. finland 1, France 1, Germany 1 italy 1 Switserland 1.

This is of course totally outdated, on the other there were at leastten times more. I know for at fact there is one guy in Sweden, one in Norway. How about Rick Young, isn´t he an instructor. Not according to the official wedpage. How about Bob Breen in england. no one in Poland!

This is the problem we need to sort out. Not even on this webpage can we get all the facts needed. We need to organize Europe better while it is still quite exclusive, there is still a oppurtunity to stop all the "jkd fortune seakers"

Maybe I should write an e-mail to dans website and ask för the facts. I will get back after some more research on the subject.

/SteFan

Is there any place in the web, to find out Ted Wong instructor list?

The instructors list under Ted Wong is being now under updating process. But soon enough it will be once again avaible in the web. Stefan- great post, great answers, true facts.

i found a papper with the inosanto instructors he his on his web page earlier.

310 instructors under him

If you then choose one of these instructors for example paul vunak, his instructors are like this.

220 apprentice instructors
160 Phase I instructors
100full instructors
10 senior instructors
40 GEI instructors.

Then you take rest of the Linegae from the rest of the 209 of Inosantos Instrutor, Rick young for example. where is the exclusiveness in this, this is one reason I prefer the ted Wong and jun fan approach. I feel that ted Wong has not "sold out" his relationship with bruce lee.

Bruce lee certified 2 people in Jeet kune Do. It is up to evyone to decide if they prefer the concepts approach to certifying people in JKD or the Jun fan way.

/SteFan

310 instructors under Dan - they are not only JKD instructors. there are FMA only, Silat only etc among them...

Paul Vunak is different because his students (like me) is PFS approach, not JKD Concepts.

Not everybody on Dan's list is JKD insctructor and no everybody of JKD instructor are close friends and instructors - could say "closed door instructor" like Rick or Erik...

You must understand - Rick knows original material JF JKD. Dan taught him. I dont know if everybody from that list know JFJKD material, but You can not generalize, like You did in Your previous posts...

Regards

Did i say they are JKD instructors, I simply stated that these are his instructors. This does just proove, what does Dan teach, how many that claim to be instructors under him in JKD are simply instructors in other systems he certifies in.

Please try to find out from Rick Young a detailed and updated instructors listing in Europe under dan Inosanto in JKD. That would probably helt a lot.

How about the Paul Vunak Linegae? this was taken from his Progressive Fighting arts, is that then certification in Bruce lee´s JKd or should we count them out as JKD representatives.


This is why the Jun fan lineage is easier to trace, we only have a JKD Lineage, we only study JKD. We don´t put in Kali, Savate, Silat, Gracie Jujustus certifications and training. It just confuses everybody about the true origin about what is taught and when. All of a Sudden a Muay Thai certified person under dan claims to be a certified Instructor by Dan in JKD Concepts, since Muay Thai is part of the Concepts, Muay Thai must be Bruce lee´s JKD.

/SteFan