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rozmawiałem wczoraj z gościem z USA, który stosował to kilkukrotnie i podobno w połączeniu z 4-AD (silny androgen) libido było wysokie ale skutki uboczne przy dawce 30mg M1T bardzo odczuwalne ( bolesne back pumpsy, agresja itp.)...nie spotkałem się żeby ktoś leciał to solo

co do zawartości obecnego m1t, który lata u nas nie mam pojęcia ale być może klepie jak trzeba

na zachodzie jest dużo takich opinii:

"I did M1T in January of 04, maybe feb, but it was GRRRREAT as for as muscle growth, insane pumps and great strength increases....

On the negative side: I had the worst head aches and back pumps I have ever experienced; also, when I took it with fish oil caps, i would have severe burning in the chest and heart area...it got so that i would eventually heave(12 days into cycle)....oh yeah, and my nutz had a consistent aching like someone kicked me there for hrs on the day...
^^^besides all that, hey it was fantastics...LOL wtfff?????"

"M1T will cause HPTA shutdown within days of first dosage. It will cause trauma to your liver and seriously damage your lipid profile. It is however very effective at building muscle. However, there are other much safer and nearly as effective products. Oh yeah, M1T is also illegal."

środek na pewno cholernie mocny ale z b.dużymi sajdami

Zmieniony przez - Lasix w dniu 2012-11-08 12:30:00

Zmieniony przez - Lasix w dniu 2012-11-08 12:53:17
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Czyli 15mg powinno dobrze robić.

No właśnie mało opinii, a środek bardzo ciekawy, choć te sajdy lekko odstraszają.

Jeżeli walczymy możemy przegrać
Jeżeli nie walczymy jesteśmy przegrani.

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Jeżeli w środku faktycznie będzie 17a-methyl-1-testosterone lub 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1-androsten-3-one bądź 17a-methyl-5a-androst-1-ene-3-one-17b-ol to zdecydowanie wystarczy.

Wrzucę później tu trochę info bo widać coraz więcej osób się tym interesuje...tylko nie chce mi się tłumaczyć .
Jeżeli nie przeszkadza po angielsku to wbije.

HaVoK89 ale według mnie zanim złapiesz się za M1T możesz spróbować Boladrol (oryginalny robi niesamowicie) ale w sumie to sam nie wiem, który jest mocniejszy bo nie widziałem nigdy porównania z M1T ale na pewno znacznie silniejszy niż superdrol.





Zmieniony przez - Lasix w dniu 2012-11-08 14:16:15

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Lasix a jak libido po m1t?jak za bardzo nie osłabia możnya by ciekawie połączyć z tym nowym wynalazkiem co do trena niby konwertuje
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Skoro faktycznie jest mocniejszy od mdrola, to nie widzę sensu brania w moim przypadku. Nie ten poziom

Zastanawiałem się nad mdrolem, dymetazyną i właśnie tym m1t, ale jak tak czytam opinie na zachodnich forach, to chyba podziękuje.
Bóle głowy, ogólne osłabienie, gówniane libido, lipidy i uj wie co jeszcze. O wątrobie nawet nie ma co wspominać

Chyba jednak zostanę przy planie 20mg mdrola, bo choć podwójnie metylowany, wydaje się mieć słabsze działanie na wątrobę, no i nie degraduje aż tak organizmu.

Dobrze wiedzieć, że istnieją gorsze gówna niż methasteron...

A info jak najbardziej można wrzucić, chętnie poczytam.

Zmieniony przez - HaVoK89 w dniu 2012-11-08 15:49:00

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Wielu ludzi pisze, że teraz większość mdroli to fake. Skad brac dobrego?
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Pro-sd dragona zbiera dobre opinie.

Jeżeli walczymy możemy przegrać
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Wielu ludzi pisze, że teraz większość mdroli to fake. Skad brac dobrego?


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m-drol z CEL to 99% wałek
klony m-drola są jak najbardziej działające
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Aras84 sprawa libido na m1t to 50/50, z relacji niektórych zawodników sceny bb wynika, że wszystko zależy od organizmu. Jednym podnosi i to znacznie drugim zabija na amen . Środek fajny ale jak jest się na dobrym poziomie i gdzie wkradł się zastój wtedy M1T to rozbuja.
Ja długo tego nie spróbuję bo przed tym jest jeszcze kilka słabszych substancji m.in methyl stenbolone, boladrol. Na dniach zaczynam przygodę z m-drolem i słabszymi kolegami

Info M1T

Nomenclature:
17a-methyl-1-testosterone, or 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-1-androsten-3-one, or 17a-methyl-5a-androst-1-ene-3-one-17b-ol

Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio:
910-1600:100-220 vs. methyl test by oral administration. [1][2]

Synonyms:
Methyl-1-testosterone, 17aa-M1T, M1T, Methyl Dread, M-One-T, 17a-methyl-dihydroboldenone

History:
It was originally synthesized as early as 1962 at Searle Laboratories though, like most compounds researched in the 1960s, never made it as far as human testing. Although it was extremely anabolic, it also possessed fairly strong androgenic qualities and was consigned to the annals of history, until it was unearthed decades later to take the bodybuilding supplement industry by storm.

M1T was the culmination of an arms race in the industry during the late 90s and early 2000s that started when Patrick Arnold released the prohormone to testosterone 4-androstenedione. He then followed it up with the hugely popular 1-androstenediol, a 1-testosterone precursor. Other firms took this one step further by producing the already-active 1-testosterone, and finally Legal Gear (now LG Sciences) upped the ante by bringing to market Methyl 1-Testosterone (M1T), which unlike the previous compounds was an entirely synthetic (non-naturally occurring) fully active oral steroid. [3]

The popularity of this and other synthetic hormones (along with a couple of sports doping scandals) attracted a lot of unwanted attention to the industry, resulting in the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2004 which saw M1T, 1-AD, 4-AD, and every prohormone and steroid the US govt. could think of added to Schedule III of the Controlled Substances Act, making them illegal to sell or possess, [4] though no legislative action has been taken against it in the UK at the time of writing.

Structure and Function:
This is a 17a-methylated compound, making it highly orally available. It lacks the delta-4 double bond of testosterone, having a 1,2 double bond instead. This means that it will not aromatise, and it will not 5a-reduce in androgen-sensitive tissues like testosterone can (since it's 5a-reduced already). Metabolism is limited, to a large extent, to reduction of the double bond and hydroxylation of the 3-ketone. [5]

Effects:
Users can expect significant and rapid weight gain accompanied by extreme gains in strength. This is not a compound to be underestimated and would be well-suited to those looking for immediate results. Some of the weight gained will be in the form of fluid retention that will be lost upon cessation, though long-lasting physique improvements can be made by taking full advantage of the short highly anabolic window of the cycle.

Side Effects:
Many have assumed that M1T aromatises, however that is structurally impossible. What is possible - and much more likely in my opinion - is that it is an inhibitor of 11b-hydroxylase, which would account for both the apparent water retention ("bloat") and high blood pressure some users experience.

Inhibition of 11b-hydroxylase can lead to increased renin secretion which results in higher levels of aldosterone, a mineralocorticoid that causes high blood pressure and water retention through sodium retention and the excretion of potassium. [7]
One study on bodybuilders found far higher levels of aldosterone in the steroid-taking group than in the non-steroid taking group - and these changes remained far past the end of their cycles. [8]
This may or may not be the case for M1T (and many other steroids), but it is food for thought, particularly as a previous study pointed the finger at aldosterone as a cause of left ventricular hypertrophy, and suggested that it's heart remodelling effects may be unrelated to it's blood-pressure increasing effects. [9]

Liver toxicity is also a concern with this compound. While there are many 17a-methylated compounds on the market, they are not all equally hepatotoxic at like-for-like dosages. Protodrol for example is likely to impart minimal hepatic impact at doses of 100mg for six weeks, while 20mg of M1T for a couple of weeks will significantly adversely affect liver function markers. Abuse of this drug with high doses for long periods of time can result in intrahepatic cholestasis (jaundice), and for this reason cycles should be kept short, low-dosed, and alcohol-free.

Recommended Dosages and Cycle Durations:
Most trainees should see dramatic results at 10mg/day for two to three weeks, the cautious may do well on 5mg, while the more reckless will use higher doses and durations. Although cycles are short, it's a strong suppressive compound, so a full SERM PCT protocol is advised.


References:
[1] Acta Endocrinol December 1, 1966 53 635-643 [link]
[2] J. Med. Chem., 1965, 8 (1), pp 48–52 [link]
[3] The History Of Pro-Hormones on Super Human Radio
[4] Senate Bill 2195
[5] Recent Advances in Doping Analysis (14), Sport und Buch Strauss, Cologne, Germany, 2006, pp. 249–258.
[6] J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 2009 May;115(1-2):44-61.
[7] Cardiovascular Toxicity of Anabolic Steroids, Annual Review of Pharmacology and Toxicology Vol. 33: 497-520
[8] Recent advances in doping analysis (12). Sport und Buch Strauß, Köln (2004) 395-401
[9] Clin Exp Pharmacol Physiol. 2001 Oct;28(10):783-91.

Poniżej opis jednego z bb, którzy stosowali i mają pojęcie na temat tego środka:

I've done it many times and got crazy gains but they are not easy to keep.

FEATURED PRODUCT: M-1T (also knows as, methyl 1-test, 17-aa-1 testosterone)

INTRODUCTION: Methylated 1 Testosterone is a structurely modified version of the most potent pro steroid known as
1-testosterone. This modification enables the hormone to pass through the liver with intact, thus increasing the oral bioavailabilty of the compound to nearly 100%, similar to injectable compounds. In comparison to methytest, M-1T is 910%-1600% as anabolic, and 100-200% as androgenic.

DOSAGES: Methylated 1 Testosterone is a VERY potent steroid. Dosages as little as 5mg per day are sometimes enough to produce strength gains, gains in lean body mass as well an an increase in vascularity. However, depending on the individuals size, goals, experience with training and experience with other androgens, the dosage may vary. Those who are lesser experienced with the use of androgens will only require a dosage of 5mg per day, taken with or without food. A more experienced bodybuilder will require 10-20mg to produce the desired effects. Because of the potency of this compound, coupled with it's strength, higher doses are not only unecessary, but also potentially dangerous. Methylated hormones also place more stress on the liver than injectable androgens, and with higher dosages, you increase liver toxicity. M-1T IS NOT FOR THOSE UNDER 21 YEARS OF AGE.

POSITIVE EFFECTS: Methylated 1 Testosterone has quickly become the "king" of legal supplements, and with good reason. Effects are noticeable within the first 2-5 days, and are very pronounced. Lean gains come quickly, and strength increases almost immediately. Users of methylated 1 Testosterone are gaining anywhere between 6-15lbs of lean muscle mass in very short time frames. M-1T does not appear to aromatize into estrogen, and causes little to no water weight.

NEGATIVE EFFECTS: As stated previously, the methylation of this compound increases liver toxicity. Also, methylated 1 Testosterone causes blood pressure to raise while using the compound, and normalizes with cesation of use. Ataxia, or nosebleeds occuring for what appears to be no reason, are also quite possible. Once again, if you happen to react in this manner, it stops with cesation of use. M-1T may also cause muscle cramps, specifically in the calfs and lower back. Some users report a lack of sex drive, while others experience an increase in sex drive. HPTA suppression happens quickly, and post cycle therapy is a must after a methyl 1 Test cycle. Lethargy, or a lack of energy is probably the most prominant side effect associated with M-1T. In some prone to male pattern baldness, hair loss may occur, but is not frequently reported. M-1T may also cause or exagerate BHP or other prostate issues. M-1T may also cause aggressiveness, mild headaches, irritability, insomnia and decreased appetite. M-1T should not be used in conjuction with alcohol, or any other compounds known to increase the risk of hepatoxicity.

A LIST OF COMPOUNDS TO REDUCE M-1T SIDE EFFECTS
High Blood Pressure: Celery seed extract, Hawthorne Berry, CoQ10.
Liver Toxicity:CFM whey protein Isolate, Milk Thistle Extract, NAC, R-ALA.
BHP, Prostate Issues or Male Patter Hair Loss: Saw Palmetto, finasteride, CFM whey protein Isolate.
Lack of Sex Drive: 4-diol (4-AD, 4-androstenediol)
Inabilty to become erect: cialis(Tadalafil), Viagra (Sildenifil Citrate)
Irritibilty: L-theanine, 5-HTP, Phenibut
Insomnia:5-htp, Melatonin

CYCLING: Duration of use with M-1T should be held from 2-4 weeks, because of the possibility of liver toxicity. M-1T can be used with other androgens, such as 4-AD (4-androstenediol, 4-diol) however should not be used in conjuction with other methylated hormones. Doing so would increase the risk of liver toxicity. Stacking M-1T with 4-AD eliminates sexual side effects, as well as lethargy. Another option for cycling is a 2 week on, 2 week off, 2 week on pattern. With each off period post cycle therapy should be used.

POST CYLE THERAPY: M-1T cycles MUST be followed by proper post cycle therapy regiments. 6-OXO, nolvadex(tamoxifen), Clomid (clomiphene Citrate), letrozole and Formestane are the most popular compounds used for M-1T post cyle therapy. DO NOT SKIP POST CYLE THERAPY. Recovery time should be equal to the time frame that you have used M-1T or any other androgens.

Havok miłego czytania a methasteron to cukiereczek do M1T...jak będziesz chciał info na temat np. boladrolu to też mam sporo a środek godny uwagi rwie jak antek albo lepiej

Do autora tematu: sorry za bałagan



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oby więcej takiego bałaganu było w dziale doping lasix dzięki za info jak masz więcej takich konkretnych informacji to wrzucaj, myślę że z Twoja wiedza można by się pokusić o założenie nowego konkretnego tematu o ph
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